Anyone ever play/watch Wolfenstein/Man In The High Castle?

For those of you who have, both the game and movie are about the United States losing WW2 and having to submit to Hitler and his Reich. The major reasons for their losses is that Germany dropped an A-Bomb on Washington DC. My question is, howcome the military was not able to detect aircraft flying towards the United States? Was technology even advanced like that in the 1940's? Seems like a silly question but what do you know about that?

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  • 2 months ago

    I did play Wolfenstein, and it was definitely Nazi themed, but I didn't get the backstory you evidently got.

    This plot could not have happened as things stood in the real WW2.  It requires several counterfactuals.

    1) The US/UK had radar, and by the late period of WW2, almost the entire North Atlantic was covered by radar.

    2) The Nazis weren't actually that close to an A-bomb.  We thought they were.  But after the war we found out that Hitler didn't really prize the A-bomb like we did because he considered it 'Jew Science', since most of the leading physicists on the topic were jewish like Einstein and others.  They did have an A-bomb program, but they weren't really all that close.  The Japanese were trying harder, but their program had taken a wrong turn and was putting a lot of effort into an approach that wouldn't work, so in a way they were even further.  And of course, as you know, the war in the pacific came to an end when we dropped two A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    3) The Nazis didn't have a long range bomber capable of getting to the US.  Aircraft range in that day was a very different thing than it is today.  The US loaded a set of bombers up with fuel and drove aircraft carriers as close to Japan as they dared to launch the Dolittle raid on Tokyo...which if you ask me was a horrific waste of resources for a propaganda win.  These were one way missions that took valuable planes and pilots out of the war effort.  A bomber that could take off and reach America, even one-way, was IIRC, WAY beyond the range of the German Luftwaffe.  Remember, the Luftwaffe didn't value strategic bombing like the Allies, they primarily emphasized close-support bombing using Stuka dive bombers that could actually place bombs on target.

    4) The Nazis didn't really have the resources for such a mission towards the end of the war.  Germany's oil had been cut off due to losses in the Middle East.  In fact, one of the Reich's mistakes in Russia (among many) was that it turned south to try to capture oil fields instead of going straight to Moscow.  They were also short of trained pilots and navigators.  Such an attack on DC probably never would have made it with an inexperienced crew.  The fact is that once the Luftwaffe started facing off against experienced Allied aviators with comparable aircraft, they went from invincible to vincible quite fast and were losing huge numbers of pilots.

    5) The Nazis lacked long range escorts to protect the bombers.  One of the many problems the allies faced early in the war is that their bombers could go all the way from Britain into Nazi territory...but their fighters couldn't, even with drop tanks.  They could only protect them in the early and late legs of the mission...the LEAST dangerous parts.  Bombers did have machine gun crews mounted to cover every field of fire, but the fact is these bombers were outmatched by agile, fast fighters.  It wasn't until the P-51 Mustang (and later a few other kinds of fighters) came along that the Allies could protect their bombers all the way to the target.  And even then, some fighter crews DIDN'T.  This is one reason why bomber crew LOVED the Tuskegee Airmen (aka Red Tails) because they came along in P-51s and would stay with the bombers at all costs all the way to the drop target, defending them the whole way.  The Nazis had nothing like that.

    So the scenario you're talking about is far-fetched and impossible given the way the war was turning out for the Nazis.  But these are historical re-imaginings, so in their version those conditions weren't true.

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