Ronaldo/messi the greatest ever?

These days, it's impossible to make a claim like that. There are so many people who just hold traditionalist views and refuse to accept that anyone will ever be as good as george best, pele, puskas etc. It's the same for everything, films, books, singers. it seems that everyone refuses to believe that... show more These days, it's impossible to make a claim like that. There are so many people who just hold traditionalist views and refuse to accept that anyone will ever be as good as george best, pele, puskas etc. It's the same for everything, films, books, singers.

it seems that everyone refuses to believe that the heroes of yesteryear will be bested.

many of these people never even experienced these people play, and are just going on what they've heard.

Compare video footage of pele/di stefano with ronaldo/messi and it's beyond any doubt who is better. The skill, the touch, the athleticism the speed the strength. no to mention the quality of the opposition. These days, the top 3 leagues in europe are melting pots, hybrid styles of football created from the best of the best from around the world. Players are so much fitter, with more stamina. People call la liga easy, but pele played in the brazilian league...in the 1960s. please.

Ronaldo, for all the reasons he gives to hate him, is a sublime footballer. at least the second best in the world. 146 goals in 144 games for the worlds biggest club? yikes.

as for messi, I would go as far to say that he is the most talented sportsman I have ever seen. these two are so far ahead of the competition. both modern and historic, that it's just become pathetic to try and hold on to these old beliefs that 'old is good'.

and as for people who say fat ronaldo is better than thin ronaldo, just no. stop deliberately trying to be counter intuitive
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