Why are the friends/family of a 14 yr girl arrested + facing 17 yrs 4 sexting her boyfriend not attacking cops?

Why are students and teens not rioting to free this girl and attacking those abusing her.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/5457748/teen-ar...

A 14 year old girl in america has been arrested and in danger of being sent to prision for 17 years and put on the sex offenders register for life and to be imprisioned therefore with peadophiles, rapists, and child killers. They say its for child porn

her crime? mass murder, ?

No all she did was post nude photos of herself on her myspace page as a treat for her boyfriend.

And prosecuters are trying to do the same to other teens.

Now correct me if wrong here but the whole point of child porn laws is supposed to be to protect young vunerable kids and teengers from rape and abuse being forced to pose against their will for photos to be sold to peadophiles.

Now what on earth has that got to do with taking phonts of yourself to send to a loved one so they want to come over and give you lots of snuggles?

Not exactly something needing protection against.

And seeing as she would be the victim beign said underage subject of photo... how on earth is sticking her on a sex offenders register, and imprisioning her till he is like 31 with rapists, peadophiles (real ones) child psycho murderers as a child porn charge would mean the specail sex offenders wing of the prison protecting her?

Sorry confused can somone explain that one to me?

The only issue I see with sexting or sex emailing etc is if others get the photos (POSS BY A PARTNER IN REVENGE FOR GETTING DUMPED)they might be mean and send them around the school or when older someone may blackmail you to hurt a career... But why cower why not say

'yeah they are me so what they were a treat for a boyfriend as we had a decent love life probably far better then your sad pathetic one get a life saddo. Incidently you do realise all females have those bits including yo mumma'

Sorted

So given that she did nothing immoral other then trying to turn on her boyfriend, why are her mates not forcing her release by attacking the police, prosectuters and jailers ?

Till they release and apologise ?

Update:

WHY NOT INSTEAD ARREST ANYONE WITH SEXAULLY REPRESSIVE, SEXIST, HOMOPHOBIC AND TALIBAN LIKE ATTITUDES FOR BEING AN ABUSIVE DANGER TO YOUNG GIRLS.?

What next stoning to death for kissing? like what the kurdish yazidi di to this girl as this is what those prosecuters support

YOUNG TEEN GIRL BEING STONED TO DEATH WHICH LASTWED 30 MIN TILL SHE DIED

http://ballyblog.wordpress.com/2007/05/04/iraqis-s...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BeWbZOl0Wyw

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The police who arrested her are clearly the same kind who had teen girls exectued by slow hanging for having boyfriends or resisting rape

MORE TEENAGERS BEING EXECUTED FOR MAKING LOVE OR RESISTING RAPE

http://uk.messages.news.yahoo.com/World/threadview...

TEENAGE GIRL TO BE HUNG IN IRAN FOR DEFENDING HERSELF AGAINST RAPE. AND ANOTHER FOR SEX

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/009...

Update 3:

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Perfect I dont think you get the point that the only haunting or harm that is going to hurt her is being arrested and being handed over to sex offenders in prision.

As said if the law is there to protect what sense is there in applying it insanely for waht is basically dateing behavour between your average couple and 14 is no child but fully capable of having sex and having babies.

Its normal for 14 year olds to be dating, masterbating, making out at second base in cinemas, playing spin the bottle etc.

This is the girls first relationship, her first love maybe... so dont you think that if nothing had been done and the couple left to it that nothing bad would have occured whereas now the poor girl is giing to have relationship issues for life if released and if not... why stick her in prision for 17 years when your averave gang member who knifes somone is out in 3 weeks?

Update 4:

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Rapists have used the excuse that the victim was asking for it by the clothes that they wore or the way that they acted, so by stopping people from posting inappropriate pictures online might help her own safety.

Erm***** you aint checked the facts as at present shes no danger... what do you think weill happen when her jail cell mates are a rapist, peado and child murdering pyschopath... you dont think she will be in more danger then? when locked in with them?

As said why are her friends not rioting for her freedom?

Update 5:

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Rapists have used the excuse that the victim was asking for it by the clothes that they wore or the way that they acted, so by stopping people from posting inappropriate pictures online might help her own safety.

Erm***** you aint checked the facts as at present shes no danger... what do you think weill happen when her jail cell mates are a rapist, peado and child murdering pyschopath... you dont think she will be in more danger then? when locked in with them?

As said why are her friends not rioting for her freedom?

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Why is it illegal to send love photos to your boyfriend even if 14?

Underage or not Whats the difference between that and wearing a pushup bra and sexy dress so your boyfriend wnats to kiss you and to remind him not to check other girls.

*******Why not only illegal if being forced to do things you dont like?************

As said where is the victem? its only the authourities victemising anyone

Same like with the High school Musical stars... they did the same thing.

If nobody made a fuss about it what would the problem be?

Update 7:

And not peadophils when the person who got sent the photos was also her age.

********************When will people wake up to the fact teengers are NOT children, they date, develop sexaully, make love and grow up and its part of growing up and a parent and grown ups job is to see this happens safely and successfully.

Is it not insane that others are having sex and they get arrested when may still be virgins?

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The only thing she is guilty of is being in love with her boyfriend, being a horney hormonal teen.

Comming up with a funny and naughty idea to shock her boyfriend in a jokey manner.

So why not adjust the law so it only applies when somoen is acutally being abused or forced

Update 9:

Also please respond to the teacher question in my profile

Update 10:

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Big T

Let's look at it from a slightly different viewpoint. Suppose, for a moment, that she had persuaded (goodness know how, but nonetheless) an adult to take the pictures on her behalf. Surely you would agree that that person should be prosecuted?

As said common sense comes into all things when judging if something is abusive or not.

What happens if the photos were part of a biology text book showing various development stages during puberty?

How about showing the difference between a healthy 14 year old and one with annorexia with the intention of preventing eating disorders?

In this case it was simply her having fun trying to wind up her boyfriend.

So what if the boyfriend was 18 who received them does that make it abusive no... 14 and 18 year old do date and often the younger girls will pull stunts like that and the poor 18 year old will be worried about getting into trouble whilst miss 14 year old is simply pushing boundaries

Update 11:

ABUSE IS PRETTY CLEAR CUT.

IE FORCE, DRUGGING, BLACKMAIL, SOMEONE WITH A HISTORY OF MANIPULATION AND PIMPING. SOMONE WHO THEN USES THE PHOTOS TO BLACKMAIL.

Lets use the what if it was my sister sinario.

Would I be worried if sis and boyfeiend where sexting each other age 14?

NO Maybe tell them to tone it down and point out what if you break up and he shows the photos to others.

They are just being a couple.

Would I have a problem if somoen got sis drunk then took the phtos then was using them to blackmail her into maybe having sex or handing over money?

YES then the guy is dead man walking.

Ie there is a difference between lovey dovey stuff and nasty stuff.

Update 12:

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I hate to say it, but there is every possibility that any judge she might come before will be inclined to be much more severe in his judgement, purely because of the huge amount of interest that this case seems to have gained. She might be better of if questions like this were not asked.

I have a better response... maybe the judge will get death threats if he does not free her and force an apology and sacking of those who caused her all the grief.

Better still maybe the cops who arrested her get their homes firbombed and a local gang think hey foronce instead of using our guns for stupid stuff like mugging and stupid gang warefare how about we stop her prision van, kill the scumbags trasporting her, free her and put the word out anyone try and arrested her gets shot. or anyone else pulling stunts like that?

As she and others like her are under the protection of the community

ie start a war over this

Update 13:

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Melissa

your being overly dramatic.

ok

what she did was a crime.

so she's 14..does that mean the law doesn't abide to her?

noo she has to obey the law just like everyone else..

if she got away with this..do you know how many other girls would start posting nudes of themself on myspace..

it has to stop somewhere.

In response.

If there is no victem there is no crime and any law is therefore wrong.

Your argument is as insane as saying if you wear a red jumper you can be stoned to death...

Or how about if you leave the house without the permission of your husband, father or brother you can be stoned to death, If your beard is not long enough to grab in a fist you can be flogged with wires. How about if you have nail varnish you get your finger nails ripped out

& what about if female and you go to school you can be executed.?

Sound mad?

Those are actual taliban laws and punishments are carried out. laws law as you say

Update 14:

as for your worry what if many other girls post nude pictures of themselves

As long as settings are private and they are meant for boyfriends then whats the problem?

be they 14,15,16,17,18...

Teengers are growing into adults and couples do things like this as part of forming relationships. As long as its a loving thing I see no problem.

its when people use the photos in an abusive way I have a problem...

But simply showing off photos of your ex as she dumped you is not peadophilic.

Its being a jerk thats all. 40 year olds buying them and clear adults making teens pose then thats different

Update 15:

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Big T

You are, simply, missing every single one of my points, but that's perfectly fine.

Im not... you are hoping this will turn out nice but evangelicals are in charge here and they are nastily sexaully repressive.

Abuse comes donwn to a very simply consept... its called being a mean bully and making someone cry

So when it all boils down to this simple consept... who is making the girl cry?

her loving boyfriend or the people trying to destroy her life and first love.

The whole poit of anti child porn is to stop young people being made to cry and being bullied sexaully.

if no bullying is occuring and its just a case of a typical 14 year olds pushing things further then they should be for her age then all thats needed is for parents to tell them to cool it

Update 16:

Vampire

I know it was the yazidi who did the stoning. The point was in isolation instances like this case are no big deal but when you compare to other acts of puritanisim then it paints a different pritucre of controlling teen girls.

I also have plots on christins... look up the irish magdelen laundries were 30,000 girls with the full support of the vatican andall of ireland 30,000 teen girls were imprisioned and abuised for life up till 1996

http://www.netreach.net/~steed/magdalen.html

The documentary about the Magdalene abuse Can be seen here

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-173295393...

and how in africa on top or trying to murder everyoen with aids by ording people not to use condoms the church goes around murdering 1000s of children accused of witchcraft with a histroy of european inquistion and terrorisim

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/dispatches/s...

Update 17:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-2336914...

The actual document from the current pope, supported by the previous pope instructing bishops and priests to cover up child abuse so it continued. Not highlighted areas.

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Observer/doc...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/28_09_0...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/318...

How the church tries to FORCE 8 YEAR OLD RAPE VICTEMS TO GIVE BIRTH DESTROYING THEIR LIVES CARING NOTHING FOR CHILDREN ESPECAILLY FEMALES.

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The law was tested to the full earlier this year when an eight-year-old girl, known only as Rosa, was raped and became pregnant.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/sto... http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/programmes...

Update 18:

Why show this? it shows who the real abusers are. which is puritans

And islam does sentence teengers to stoning

EXECUTING 13 YEAR OLDS GIRLS FOR HAVING SEX… DEATH BY STONING THE MOST VIOLENT, AGONISING AND SCARY WAY… SEE VIDEO AFTER LINK

http://www.iran-press-service.com/ips/articles-200...

16 YEAR OLD HUNG FOR HAVING SEX.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=...

Those are in iran.

IE THE REAL ABUSERS ARE THE SEXUAL REPRESSERS WHO ARE ALSO REPRESSING THIS GIRL AND OTHERS AS THEY DONT LIKE HERE DATING AND JUST WANT HER MARRIED AND MAKING BABIES.

And who cares about the fact shes 18

Same scum have girls 18 +expelled or sacked for posing for playboy etc

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmafp/is_200...

http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,1...

Update 19:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090331/tuk-sexiest-te...

SO NOT JUST THOSE UNDER 18... INDICATING THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHILD ABUSE BUT HATE OF SEXUALITY.

Laws like megans law are incorrect if cant discriminate between abuse and normal relationship activity.

Therefore the law becoming the abuser.

And the notion that those underage may support abuse also creates paranoia that anyone over 18 or older teen must be being manipulative and abusive which is total nonsense

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  • 1 decade ago
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    There is only one answer for this.

    Sending ANY kind of pornographic picture, that is of an underage person, over the internet is illegal. It doesn't matter who posted the pictures, but the one that does the posting is the one guilty of child pornography...even if the subject in the picture is the same person doing the posting, regardless of their age.

    Granted, 17 years is kind of ridiculous, but it's meant to get a point across that child pornography will not be tolerated in any way, shape or form. It's sad that this girl has to live with this horror, but her reason for doing it (for her bf) isn't changing the fact that she's not of legal age.

    Our society does take issues to the extreme sometimes and this is one of those times. But you have to look at both sides...she is underage, there's no denying it. And what she did was illegal...even if she didn't think it was.

    I hope things work out for her in the long run.

    Source(s): Mom of 4 & Gramma of 2
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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Posting seminaked pictures of a child (which she basically is) on the internet is illegal, this is to protect children. By putting pictures of herself online she was putting herself in danger.

    That is the law. If she wanted to turn on her boyfriend why not wait until they should actually be allowed to do sexual things?

    Attacking police would probably make things worse.

    Yes going to prison for many years is a bit over the top (17 years is the maximum for the crime, and so not the minimum that she would serve and probably will not happen anyway), and this case has probably been used to stop other children from doing the same. They could haunt her for a long time by ending up in the wrong hands.

    Rapists have used the excuse that the victim was asking for it by the clothes that they wore or the way that they acted, so by stopping people from posting inappropriate pictures online might help her own safety.

    Also I thought it was against the T&Cs of myspace to post seminaked photos? Or paedophilic things? If they were inappropriate, they were put in the public domain, and that is not right.

    Also: she is 14, she would not go to an adult prison. She would go to a juvenile centre.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I didn't read all of your question ... It's way too long and I am tired but I read most of it.

    What you seem to be forgetting is that what she did is illegal. If she went to jail, I would have thought she would go to juvenile jail. I think that 17 years Maximum is pretty unreasonable but that's the law ...

    You break it and you will have to pay ...

    I think that community service would be a much suited punishment.

    Most of the stuff you posted was pretty disturbing and uncomfortable.

    Attacking the police would just make it worse. You may think that the law isn't right but you have to abide by it.

    What happened with the Nazi happened a long time ago and yes it was wrong but that is why we have the law, to make it a safe and happy place for everyone. Most of your posts are in Iran or Iraq and that is a very different country to the UK or US and they have very different laws to what we have.

    You need to listen to other peoples opinions about this, not just your own. You posted this question to hear other people's views so listen to them.

    There are allot of horrible things in this world that goes on and if you want to try and change it be my guest. Make a stand about what you feel is right and try to make people listen to you but don't force it upon them.

    I would write more but like I said I am tired.

    I might edit later.

    =D

    EDIT*

    I really don't have a problem with that girl doing that, but it's so easy to get pictures of myspace and some peodofile could be using it and selling it some where.

    I think they only made it a law so that other people couldn't get hold of pictures like that ...

    EDIT*

    Because there are so many people doing this that it will be almost impossible for Myspace to do.

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  • Big T
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Please calm down.

    The penalty that you are talking about is the maximum available under the law for posting pornographic pictures of underage children.

    The specific case that you are talking about is still under investigation.

    It is by no means certain that it will be prosecuted, assuming that a case is found.

    If it is prosecuted, and she is found guilty, it is at the absolute discretion of the court as to her sentence in American law.

    So, if we assume all of the above including a guilty verdict, the judge may well decide to slap her wrists and sentence her to nothing more than a severe warning.

    THIS IS NOT AS HUGE AS YOU WANT IT TO BE.

    She will, note my words, spend NOT one moment in jail (or juvenile detention). She will NOT be put onto the sex offender's register.

    It is, however, a direct consequence of the uncritical acceptance within the USA of an all embracing "Megan's Law". There are no exceptional cases under that law. Pornography is pornography, and your age as a producer of that pornography has nothing to do with its interpretation.

    Let's look at it from a slightly different viewpoint. Suppose, for a moment, that she had persuaded (goodness know how, but nonetheless) an adult to take the pictures on her behalf. Surely you would agree that that person should be prosecuted?

    Edit:

    I hate to say it, but there is every possibility that any judge she might come before will be inclined to be much more severe in his judgement, purely because of the huge amount of interest that this case seems to have gained. She might be better of if questions like this were not asked.

    Edit 2. Thank you for your response.

    I cannot think of any textbook that might be interpreted as pornographic, despite that it might have naked developmental pictures in it.

    You are, simply, missing every single one of my points, but that's perfectly fine.

    Edit 3:

    This, and then I resign from boredom and disenchantment with what has become a prolonged rant from you.

    1. Megan's Law makes no distinction as to the age of the offender.

    2. The pictures she posted were not "titillation", so far as we know. They were pornographic.

    3. She broke the law.

    4. By no means all victims of pornographic activity "feel" that they have been coerced, hurt or otherwise abused, but that does not mean that they have not been. Many never "feel bullied", and many never "cry". Some even express deeply held feelings of fondnes and even love for their abusers. Often their very lack of any feeling of having been abused in any way is perceived as evidence of the level of influence that they might have been under, and is used, evidentially, against their abusers in courts.

    5. It is virtually certain that she will, assuming the case ever gets to court (which is not certain) escape anything other than a severe slap on the wrist. although it is quite likely that the attention this case has drawn may result in a heavier penalty than might otherwise have been the case.

    I'm done now, you'll be glad to hear.

    But, before I go.

    You do seem to have very passionate feelings about this case, and I suppose you have good reasons for that.

    Good.

    People should have strong feelings about events that affect our youth.

    The downside is that you appear to have little true knowledge of the causes, processes and effects of abuse or of the likely effects of any prosecution of this particular case on the child that is involved.

    I wish you, and her, well.

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  • MaryLu
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    4 years ago

    i think either of them could get arrested. i'm in the US and an ex of mine had a 14 year old sister continuously run away all the time a few years back, and the mother had to keep reporting her as a runaway. the police ended up finding her. but she did this more than once so they had to put her under house arrest with an ankle bracelet and everything. i don't know if the laws are different in england, but if she continues to attempt to run away, he could get arrest and she could possibly get arrested as well. she can consider asking a friend to let her stay with them (with both her parents and the friends parents agreeing first!) or a different part of the family.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    1st of all, please quit adding details. It's ridiculously long & nobody is gonna read it.

    I think the punishment is crazy, she shouldn't go to jail.

    But something should be done. A 14 year old girl should not be exposing her body like that to boys. This is 8th grade, 9th grade...my younger sister will be 14 in June and my parents and I would go crazy if she ever did this. She would be in so much trouble.

    It's crazy that kids are doing this. They should be punished, but that punishment is a little crazy. They should have her go through a program that teaches teens that exposing themselves sexually like this is not appropriate for their age. Not only is it inappropriate, it's dangerous. Pedophiles could easily see those pictures and go after her.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    How Stupid.

    Omg I Feel For That Girl!

    Poor Thing.

    She Is Just A Baby, She Did Something Stupid And To Be Honest Pathetic, 17 Years For That?

    No- A Warning? Yes.

    Bless Her.

    X

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  • 1 decade ago

    i don't think they should have done that, it's very harsh AND it's not their business what she does with herself.

    btw, what was the point of showing us all those videos? all it does is plant stereotypes into american's heads.

    btw, that 17 year old girl was not murdered by muslims. she converted to islam and because her tribe ( Yezidi)hates sunni's they stoned her...

    i saw that video and almost everyone was saying really mean things about muslims, and it wasn't even them! i hate how as soon as people hear "iran" and "killings" they automatically think it's the muslims responsible.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Because people do not have a HEART anymore. People do not CARE about others no more. People just don't give a damn anymore. There is NO RESPECT for people and we just live in a very miserable world. Its not like it use to be that's for sure. I feel sorry for the kids who have to deal with this negativity when we are gone. I just wish people would get along. We were not put on earth to hate, we were put on here to LOVE one another...I don't know but this was very disturbing, it was all disturbing....I'm very upset now that I read this but I will be okay..:o)

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